“hold off, Is This a night out together?” Podcast Episode 209: Bottoming with Chingy | Autostraddle

Let’s earn some sound for any soles in the home! (its me, the base in the house.) Bottom customs has started to become very something™ on line recently! But what can it truly indicate is a bottom? Precisely why has the culture made the decision bottoming is synonymous with becoming nervous to inquire about for what you want? And exactly how does someone go-about determining should they like bottoming?!

With all these questions rattling around the minds, requiring answers, Drew and I also realized there clearly was singular person we’re able to check-out for a rounded, enthusiastic dialogue about bottoming: The Gay Chingy AKA Chingy Nea, AKA the base Supreme. Chingy is just one of the finest individuals I know creating and tweeting now, and as a bottom my self, Im recognized to contact the woman my frontrunner. Chingy helps us tease down what it way to end up being a bottom, why she hates “smol bean” bottom part society, your body as hole, and your human anatomy as

entire

. It’s an extremely gorgeous talk, basically carry out say so me! Please know that I am aware that I state “gorgeous” more or less three thousand times this occurrence, and I am pursuing assistance for my personal situation. (the situation is actually talking like 57 year old white homosexual guy.)

And! Recently’s game requires me guessing in the event the complicated plots Drew describes participate in a film or a dream she had circa 2006. It is not easy!


PROGRAM RECORDS

+ Study Chingy’s
Bottom Manifesto
, follow the woman
on Twitter
and
IG
!

+listed here is a list of every films that received utilized in the woman online game:


  • The Seventh Seal

    (1937)

  • Discussing Kid

    (1938)


  • Pierrot ce Fou


    (1965)

  • Black Swan

    (2010)

+Watch Anna Faris perform the most useful work of her job in

Smiley Face!


+Let

Shohreh Aghdashloo chat one to sleep while dressed as Chrisjen


Avasarala


from

The Expanse

as you have earned that.


+Cindy Wilson for the B52s is quite hot and honestly? “Love Shack” nonetheless whips!


+
Robert Mitchum
, stone cold fox.



EPISODE


Chingy

: I’ve merely already been bottoming since I was, I don’t know, dating back i could keep in mind.


Drew

: Cue Rags to Riches from

Goodfellas.


Chingy

: dating back to I’m able to remember, i desired to be a base, no, but kind of

[intro plays]


Drew

: Hi, I Am Drew.


Christina

: I’m Christina.


Drew

: Thank you for visiting

Hold off, Is This a night out together

?


Christina

:

Wait, So Is This a romantic date?

is actually an Autostraddle podcast focused on the one, really the only the biggest question in our instances: Wait, Is it a romantic date?


Drew

: And, wow, I really just froze upwards here.


Christina

: I happened to be like, oh crap, I found myself designed to state anything! [laughs]


Drew

: i am really rapid with the banter, my head merely… The truth is that I was reading over my game notes, which we’re not at however because we still have to introduce ourselves. Therefore, i will make an effort to stay focused on one job at a time.


Christina

: Focus upwards!


Drew

: i am Drew Gregory, I am a writer for Autostraddle, and a filmmaker, and a trans lady.


Christina

: Hi, i’m called Christina Tucker, forgot my final title for a hot moment, no big deal. I will be in addition an author at Autostraddle and various other locations on the internet, a podcaster, a gay black woman. That is kind of it, dog, which is me personally.


Drew

: I favor it. Okay, now we-


Christina

: Now the overall game.


Drew

: Can we have fun with the online game?


Christina

: Can we get right to the online game? I’m able to let you know’re excited, I’m able to tell you’re just vibrating.


Drew

: therefore, i have been maintaining a dream record since 2007, while the idea within this online game is-


Christina

: I did not know this about you!


Drew

: Yes, it’s not as updated now, we accustomed take note of all my personal desires nowadays it is only if something really sticks. But, the assumption within this video game is actually, am we explaining the plot of a dream I had when I was actually a teenager, or in the morning we describing the land of a film that we liked once I had been a teenager?


Christina

: Oh man, okay.


Drew

: therefore, the way it is going to get is we’ll constantly explain it an aspiration and also in the first person. Very, if this had been

Star Wars,

I’d wind up as, I’m in area and I’m fighting as an element of a rebellion, there’s a bad  guy who’s dressed in a black colored robot match and it also turns out he is my father. That is the way I’ll describe it, the way we explain aspirations, but often it is going to be a dream, often it’ll be from a film. Prepared?


Christina

: i am one thing, I don’t know that I’m prepared, but let’s stone. Why don’t we see just what i could do here.


Drew

: Okay, I’m on a coastline and I also see this odd guy dressed up in black colored. He tells me he’s Death and now we can enjoy a casino game to decide easily live or if the guy takes me. We manage to avoid, but every-where I-go, people are ill and I feel just like dying remains soon after me.The merely delighted part occurs when We meet a theater troupe and they’re an enjoyable experience.


Christina

: This,I think, is a dream.


Drew

: this will be Ingmar Bergman’s

The Seventh Seal

from 1957.


Christina

: this might be going to be a genuine gotcha on CT’s classic flick information, because the thing I know Drew, within puberty, wasn’t performing was actually enjoying movies that i’ll know. At this point, I’m kind of hoping that I have seen do not require. In my opinion which will be more fun in my situation.


Drew

: the next one, I’m meeting with my loved ones many Italian US gangsters. Among the many gangsters demands that we provide over some cash, but my children and that I were able to break free. We escape through all of this arctic landscapes, on the highway I fulfill an actress and relate with this lady. We end in a suburb. In my opinion we are going to start a brand new life together until she requires us to a huge residence, and I also realize it belongs to the gangster. It was all a trap, the gangster shows up and there’s a confrontation. I eliminate him, the dream concludes aided by the celebrity performing a musical number.


Christina

: Is this a movie?


Drew

: This would be an aspiration I had in 2008.


Christina

: Okay, wow. Boy, yeah, I guess I have to just remember that , it is 2000, its old school Drew head. That’s what I have to keep in mind.


Drew

: In addition like, exactly what films was actually we enjoying at that time and how a lot did that effect my personal desires?


Christina

: Well, yeah, demonstrably a lot!


Drew

: A fun fact is that I happened to be really, I didn’t consist of this because I was thinking this would provide it with out, however the gangster had been Tony Soprano because I found myself viewing

The Sopranos

in 2008. Thus, which is an enjoyable little fact. Okay, next one, i’ve a significant task, but this hot lady appears and starts annoying me personally. I want to end up being with her, but In addition really should get could work completed, therefore I inform the lady to depart. She keeps following myself. Out of the blue, a leopard seems within my space and that I need certainly to spend the remaining dream wanting to capture the leopard. I am still actually nervous, I never finish could work, but at the very least your ex is hot.


Christina

: it’s to get an aspiration you have, it has to be a Drew fantasy.


Drew

: This Really Is Howard Hawks’

Mentioning Baby

from 1938.


Christina

: No, but that is an aspiration of yours, that is the the majority of Drew fantasy I’ve heard. Today at this time, i am simply likely to be spinning film record, to match my personal whims.


Drew

: Great, i enjoy that. Okay, i am at an event and I also cannot enjoy any individual there. Ultimately, I see this girl, we used to have a crush on therefore decide to leave with each other. We check-out the woman household, but they are chased off by this set of males who will be attempting to kill the lady. We wind up on a beach therefore may seem like we will be fine till the males find you. She eventually ends up being into this additional guy, and so I just take cartoonish dynamite and determine to blow my self up


Christina

: Movie.


Drew

: it is! This might be Jean Luc Goddard’s

Pierrot ce Fou

, from 1965.


Christina

: haven’t seen, but that appears like a ding dang movie in my experience.


Drew

: Great, I favor it. Absolutely a narration explaining a strange boat like construction that is impossible to damage. I’m going on a retreat near the construction, the refuge is sort of theater relevant, sort of religious. You will find a crush on this woman in the retreat, but she has a boyfriend. Amid the activities and rituals, there are plenty of crisis between me personally and this also lady and her date, it finishes beside me by yourself. There’s been a sequence disclosing that the vessel framework is actually impractical to wreck because a mechanical supply fixes it inside the evening.


Christina

: That could be everything in numerous ways, I’m going to state motion picture once again, you need to?


Drew

: It is a dream from 2011, that did have narration from somebody else, you know, it occurs!


Christina

: this is actually good promo having a dream log, because i’m want it might be fun basically could recall my aspirations in this way.


Drew

: No person really likes once you describe your goals for them. I really do though, and I’m the friend, so if you wish take note of your goals and tell me, I would personally want to read about all of them.


Christina

: Okay, that’s great to hear.


Drew

: i’ve two even more.


Christina

: Okay.


Drew

: I’m in an attractive garden with several buddies, everyone seem to be awakening from becoming drugged. We’re forced to bathe in an acid that empties pigment and then we turn out to be blond and blue-eyed. Individuals responsible start training us to eliminate, as it happens this place has been run by a crazy dictator, I resist acquiring completely brainwashed. Absolutely this woman indeed there You will find a crush on and that I persuade the girl to escape beside me, while leaking out I get shot and killed, but the lady will get out. Whenever she leaves the prison, she realizes we’re in a forest generally there’s nowhere to visit.


Christina

: Film.


Drew

: that will be the most important dream during my dream journal from, I stated, “2007.” Is in reality 2006.


Christina

: Wow.


Drew

: i believed it actually was interesting that I die within the fantasy, nevertheless other individual continues on. However now, absolutely some odd gender things going on indeed there, and I’m likely to need think about any particular one for some time.


Christina

: surely do that.


Drew

: Okay, You will find another.


Christina

: Okay.


Drew

: I’ve been considering the possibility to end up being a ballerina, my mother claims I won’t have the ability to do so. Absolutely this different girl from inside the show just who i do believe is hot, but i am stressed she’s going to change me personally. I am striving in rehearsal, but-end upwards leaving because of the lady, we hook-up. It is hot, but I feel me losing control, we return to the dance show. My body system appears to be morphing into something else entirely, i am worried that I’m going to mess-up.


Christina

: that is a movie.


Drew

: Very,

Black Swan

.


Christina

: Yes, that is

Black Swan

, certainly.


Drew

: maybe you have observed

Dark Swan

? Which was one I imagined you’ve viewed.


Christina

: I have seen

Ebony Swan

, I… Fun fact, I proceeded a night out together with a guy to see

Ebony Swan

.


Drew

: Wow.


Christina

: merely direct things I did.


Drew

: the thing that was that like?


Christina

: Weird, it actually was weird.


Drew

: Did you like movie? Performed the guy just like the movie?


Christina

: i do believe, I got already viewed it, In my opinion I found myself similar, “Let’s go view it again.” I do believe, I happened to be extremely pro

Black Swan,

as well as straight heterosexual explanations, truly.


Drew

: Sure, okay.


Christina

: And, he was like, “that has been odd.” And that I had been love, “Oh well, we aren’t planning still date.”


Drew

: Wow, really If only him top, i am hoping he’s somewhere doing well. Thanks a lot for playing the game beside me.


Christina

: Wow, I’m so glad we moved two for nevertheless lots of we performed on that.


Drew

: Not terrible.


Christina

: perhaps not bad.


Drew

: You did better than Elise performed while I planned to see if this is a practical online game which could work, and she was actually my personal guinea pig. Very, she only got one right.


Christina

: reasonable sufficient.


Drew

: Should we move on to our primary subject associated with week?


Christina

: let us enter into it, let’s have this special visitor in.


Drew

: Well, I would like to initially point out that our major subject associated with the week is actually bottoming, therefore we could only have one very special guest.


Christina

: its singular person.


Drew

: are you able to kindly present yourself?


Chingy

: Hi, i am Chingy Nea, also referred to as The Gay Chingy. I am a Writer, Filmmaker, and gasian fabric dyke muppet. I will be in addition The united states’s no. 1 bottom.


Christina

: Yes, In my opinion once we happened to be discussing subjects and we’re like, “we can easily discuss bottoming so there’s actually one person we’re able to have on the pod to accomplish this, there’s just one individual who is quite practically the Supreme.”


Chingy

: many thanks for recognizing, it feels good to own the greatness recognized, many thanks


Christina

: Yes, while’ve completed great work, and here the audience is recognizing it.


Drew

: i wish to understand when you feel you turned into The usa’s best bottom. When ended up being that a word and a label and an identity you truly conducted onto?


Chingy

: Well, and so I normally merely state, “i am The Bottom Supreme.” Because, just who cares about America?


Drew

: Positive.


Christina

: reasonable adequate.


Chingy

: Yeah, I think that i usually really was effective in bottoming, but then in 2017 or something, we went along to a play celebration which was just for fem leading sadists defeating me right up for six to seven many hours right, therefore was only me personally, and that I ended up being like, “Oh, i am the very best which is actually already been.” And then, i believe following that, i simply held escalating being, wow, I’m therefore fun to view. Wow, i am so entertaining as a bottom, that is wow, everybody just who reaches peak myself is so fortunate. And, it really went after that, I think, immediately after which we wrote a write-up labeled as i am a far greater Bottom Than You. Here’s Precisely Why. It was type a manifesto, it absolutely was a bottom manifesto.


Christina

: Yes, can confirm.


Chingy

: And, lots of people have told me, “It really is altered the way they evaluate gender.” And, i prefer that many. This is the one article back at my site that I created indeed there. I’ve authored at

Vice

,

Teenage Vogue

,

Vulture

—

Autostraddle

was the very first location we published, in fact. But yeah, that is the one blog site to my internet site, if you wish to check it out.


Christina

: i enjoy a very good brand, I love understanding a brand name, and I also think’s actually gorgeous, simply, brand handling of your personal bottomy yourself. I think, that’s really gorgeous to see.


Chingy

: Thank you, i acquired my first writing possibility at

Autostraddle

because I happened to be writing about being a base, being poly, and being truly deep into getting a fabric dyke. And because subsequently, i have began to talk about a lot of other stuff, but being bottom great just sort of could be the one through type of all of it.


Christina

: Yes.


Drew

: I additionally feel just like you’re an extremely energetic base in addition to in the way which you reveal, and explore, and I think experience bottoming you are really productive. Whereas, In my opinion there are many the queer society, maybe, particularly the lesbian society, that perhaps thinks about bottoming as… I am not sure-


Chingy:

Passivity

.


Christina

: Mm-hmm

(Affirmative)

.


Drew

: Yeah.


Chingy

: Yeah, we usually claim that absolutely way less soles than men and women believe tend to be bottoms. I believe absolutely a big change between being a bottom and just unsure or seeking what you would like. I do believe those are a couple of entirely various things that people conflate.


Christina

: I would need certainly to concur, I additionally believe the way that you talk about bottoming is, i am talking about, let’s merely state it, much less frustrating compared to the way more and more people talk about getting a bottom or recognize with bottom society. Because, i really do feel that just what many assert explicitly or non explicitly is merely, I am lazy and do not proper care to do any kind of motion, task, et-cetera, i’d like circumstances completed to me personally. And, easily have to seek that call at in any manner, that hurts my feelings. And, you’re delicious and powerful at getting, they are the issues that i would like, bring them to me and I will rock and roll your own globe. That’s gorgeous to me.


Chingy

: Thanks a lot, i am talking about, that is what you should do become good at just some thing, you have to place yourself available to you and check out and then make blunders and get damage slightly, and, I’m not sure, study on it.


Christina

: i do believe that’s an effective information, frankly.


Chingy

: I merely already been bottoming since I have ended up being, I’m not sure, dating back to i could remember. [laughs]


Drew

: Cue “Rags to Riches” from

Goodfellas

.


Chingy

: Yeah, dating back I can bear in mind, i usually desired to end up being a bottom. No, but style of, when I was 13 or 14, I happened to be currently checking out SADO MASO web sites and lesbian bdsm web sites. Thus, I happened to ben’t under any delusions in what I was about, I happened to be having ladies I dated in senior high school choke me aside, I knew what I desired. So, that standard of awareness has just given me quite a long time to know what Needs and work out how to obtain it.


Christina

: Beautiful, Drew, provide me personally your emotions on bottoming.


Drew

: Well, I’m actually truly thrilled to share this simply because personally i think like in 2019 {when I|as I|while